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STiNG
10-24-2007, 07:14 PM
Hi everybody, what fluid products do u use on ur rides+frequence of change.

So I will start posting for an exemple:

For my car Honda City vtec I use:

-Engine oil : Castrol Magnatec 10W40 every 5,000 km.
-Gear box oil : Castrol Magnatec 10W40 every 20,000 km.
-Brake fluid : Any dot 4 brake fluid found in filling station
-Radiator Coolant: Abro coolant
-Power steering fluid : not changed yet:D
-Fuel Injector cleaner : Wynns or Ecotec every 5,000 to 10,000 km.

Ur turn now guys:p

GiDEZeL
10-24-2007, 07:31 PM
bofbof.. lor la mo pa tro cheker.. ski ena dan garage... apar engine oil ki mo make sure li grade approprier..

sinon pas tro cass tet r lezot...

STiNG
10-24-2007, 07:46 PM
Mo tellemement maniac ki mo touzour achete mo ban produit avant mo alle kot mo mécano au moins mo sure ki pé metté dan massine, en passant dan ki garage to fer servicing?

GiDEZeL
10-24-2007, 07:52 PM
in fr nek 1 servicing r civic pou le momen... in al 1 garage p.louis.. kot jean-jacques.. to conner?? ofai c mo pater kin amen loto laba, li abitier r garagist la... mai personelmen, mo pas conner si li fr bien labas...

mai mo p pens pou fr next servicing mo mem... vu ki mo ti pass 2-3 mois "stage" dan 1 garage...

euuhhh LI RELATED LA!!!OUI!! LI RELATED!!!:D... servicing ek fluids al ensam sa... pareil kma chips ek ketchup... lol(pa kner kot mne al tire sa la...)

GiDEZeL
10-24-2007, 07:59 PM
mo tann dire ki shell okok..

last time, mo croir ti met motul, pater ki ti choisir.. b next time mo pou ht mo mem.. pou fr npe recherch lor best value mo kav gagner, evidamen...

b advise npe..
ski vraimem fr differens sa??? mo tann dire li kav fr moter la donn 1 lot son tou???? mo tonton p dire moi lin remark 1 sanzman son dpi lin kmens servi full synthetic(lor 1 starlet turbo sa)... ena dimoun dir li kav influence fuel economy osi?? par bcou?? shell reconu pou sa nrmalmen...

ki zot p servi kmsa?? pa nek donn mark... fr kner si full synthetic, semi.. ki grade??? kot p ht?? ki prix??

give details....

skulls
10-25-2007, 05:11 AM
mwa oci mo prefere acheté tou mo ban produits (Oil,air filter,oil filter)avant ale fer servicing. Mo fer servicing kot Roshan Coromandel (Ex toyota mechanic),aufait mo loto toyota,alor mo prefere ale kot li.

Engine oil : Motul 20W50 Multigrade every 4,800 km.
-Gear box oil : Elf 75W80
-Brake fluid : Delphi universal Lockheed Brake & clutch fluid dot 3
-Radiator Coolant: Abro coolant
-Power steering fluid : Castrol Transmax power steering Fluid
-Fuel Injector cleaner : Wynns injector cleaner, Abro injector cleaner and Wynns Octane Booster.

STiNG
10-25-2007, 06:14 AM
Hello bros, pou Honda mone lire lor net ki pa nécessaire met full synthétique (grade 5W40), semi synthétique la même bon (10W40 ou 15W50),full synthetic bon pou ban climat très très froid -0 degree, ici pas nécessaire : enfin mo pé coz pou Honda la, lezot mark pa koné.

Mo fer servicing kot José Faron (ex Honda mechanic) Coromandel, li spécialist dans ban moteur Vtec.

Sinon c'est vrai ki avec full synthétic moteur fer moins tapaz lot veilleuse.

morisboeuf
10-25-2007, 06:50 AM
Hello bros, pou Honda mone lire lor net ki pa nécessaire met full synthétique (grade 5W40), semi synthétique la même bon (10W40 ou 15W50),full synthetic bon pou ban climat très très froid -0 degree, ici pas nécessaire : enfin mo pé coz pou Honda la, lezot mark pa koné.

Mo fer servicing kot José Faron (ex Honda mechanic) Coromandel, li spécialist dans ban moteur Vtec.

Sinon c'est vrai ki avec full synthétic moteur fer moins tapaz lot veilleuse.

5W40 R 10W30 recomandr pou civic mo bien satisfait r elf excellium full synthetic motul aussi mari bon if not better than elf. Well mo ti pe servi esso ultron 5w40 avant ek mo oil usage na pas ti bon. USING TOO MUCH OIL well for my liking. Depi monne changr pou elf excellium consomation nil la marce top. Just to illustrate that all oils are not equal even if the grades r the same:eek::eek:

STiNG
10-25-2007, 08:24 AM
Oui c'est a coz sa oil consumption with 5W40 ki mo pa servi full synthetic, mo servi semi synt en 10W40, par contre si to dire ki ek Elf 5W40 li pas boire de l'huile, mo bien envie essaye li. Après tout dépende to maniere rouler, si to habitué apiy massine, li normal ki li boire de l'huile

skulls
10-25-2007, 10:04 AM
eski mo kpve gagne problem si mo change dhuile motul to castrol ? i want to give castrol a try... ena dimoun dir kpve gagne problem moteur ?

STiNG
10-25-2007, 10:32 AM
Ki problem moteur capav gagner si change marque engine oil? Please give details...

Dan mo cas mo fine sanz souvent marque de l'huile (elf, motul, castrol) mais mo fine touzour res lor même grade, et mo pa fine gagn prob ek moteur ek mo truvé Morisboeuf oci fine sanz marque de l'huile.

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 10:53 AM
ok.. mo ena galon la devan moi la.. so.. moi mo p servi motul 15w40... mne chek lor net mai mo pa p tro compren bn grade la... premier seri chifr c pr kwa?? 2m seri chifr c pr kwa?? explik npe kmen compren sa...

mne fr npe recherch lor net, pas p tro compren ki mo bzn pou mo moter ek nou clima... ofai zamai mne compren li net... synthetic la c kwa? li man made, c sa?? semi synth c kwa then??


morisboeuf, C685??? dir toi kitsoz sa?? si non, b pas cass tet....

STiNG
10-25-2007, 11:17 AM
Mo pa ene expert, sel zafer ki mo koné c ki premier chiffre indice à froid ek 2ième chiffre indice à chaud. Pli premier chiffre la bas pli li facilite démarrage dan pays froid. 1 full synthetic pli fluide ek raffiné ki semi ou mineral.

En général c ki mo fine remarké :

-0W30, 5W40 full synthetic
-10W40, 15W50 semi synthetic
-15W40, 20W50 mineral

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 11:33 AM
:eek:sa veu dire c mem pas semi ki dan mo moter la????:eek:

supozermen ti demann semi sythetic kan ti ht sa....:mad:

b mineral ek multigrade, ki so difference???? mineral c pas samem ki apel "deluil-semi" sa???


bez sa... soi dizan mne pass 3 moi dan garage moi...:D mo nek conner galon bleu multi grade, rouge semi, blan full...lol... ti colour coded dan garage...

STiNG
10-25-2007, 11:44 AM
:eek:sa veu dire c mem pas semi ki dan mo moter la????:eek:

supozermen ti demann semi sythetic kan ti ht sa....:mad:

b mineral ek multigrade, ki so difference???? mineral c pas samem ki apel "deluil-semi" sa???


bez sa... soi dizan mne pass 3 moi dan garage moi..mo nek conner galon bleu multi grade, rouge semi, blan full...lol... ti colour coded dan garage...
couma dire domino couleur sa:D

Multigrade=mineral

Ena semi en Motul 10W40

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 11:50 AM
ok.. mo ena full info now...

bn chifr avan W, c pou Winter... pli chifr la faibl. plu de luil la ress liquid a bn basse temp... sveu dire, kan ress dan clima froid, bzn chifr avan W la tipti... 0W- par exempl....


lotr chifr la, c pou kam moter cho... si li tro faibl, deluil la vin leger kan li chofer.. donc, si zot abitier soff zot moter, zot bzn 1 deluil ki ress epai at high temp... -60 par exempl...


mai pou normal use, 15W-40 ok pou nou clima..


et note ki si zot servi bn deluil ki pas pou nou clima, li kav mank protection... 1 deluil epai protege bien.. 1 ki leger reduce friction pli bien...

next time, mo p pense pren 1 15W-50... aster bzn decider ki mark...

clear?? si bzn more details, pas hesiter pou ask....

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 11:54 AM
otre chose...

ki zot servi full-synthetic, semi ou multigrade... tou les 3 bon mem...

li kmadir dilo bouloir, dilo vital ou dilo la source sa....lol

STiNG
10-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Ca même ki mo ti pé dire full synthétique pas nécessaire Maurice parski nu éna climat tropical.

En 15W50 to éna Shell Helix plus, beaucoup dimoun fine conseil moi ca de l'huile la, même Jeffrey cot Concept Car, en plis ce ki avantageux ce ki to gagn li dan presque tout filling Shell.

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 12:17 PM
maybe mo pou pren sa next time.. coz mo ti p envi servi shell moi..

mai mo rapel ki dan garage, zot ti apran moi ki kan in fini met deluil epai dan 1 moter, li bet al pren 1 grade ki pli fin... coz moter la in fini "user"...

donc mo pou rod 1 ki semi-synth 15W-40++... normalmen shell mem... dan garage kot mo ti eter, servi shell mem labas... mo pou pass garage lundi.. pou pren npe info lor bn differen mark ek rod npe conseil en general on the subject...

skulls
10-25-2007, 12:24 PM
full synthétique servi pou ban new car oci.

Castrol GTX siposé offert protection to engine a coz sa mem mo p rode change dhuile,mais pa pou aster la... next servicing...la mo p servi 20W50,eski mo kpve met 15W40 coma GiDEZeL ine dir ?

STiNG
10-25-2007, 01:56 PM
full synthétique servi pou ban new car oci.

Castrol GTX siposé offert protection to engine a coz sa mem mo p rode change dhuile,mais pa pou aster la... next servicing...la mo p servi 20W50,eski mo kpve met 15W40 coma GiDEZeL ine dir ?

Heu 15W40 li multigrade, c 15W50 ou 10W40 ki semi synt.

GiDEZeL
10-25-2007, 02:57 PM
euuhhh... GiDEZeL in dir 15W-40+++ :D... sa veu dir plis ki 40 (15W-50)... mai li pas 1 problem sa...

ki li mineral, ki li semi, ki li synthetic... ski importan c so grade... avantage synthetic, c ki oil la sort depi lab... li man-made... donc, bn producter la kav fr deluil la gagn properties ki zot ler... ce ki fai ki normalmen li meilleur.. par exempl, normalmen 1 synthetic kav fr up to 30,000km... yeah, in bien cont bn zero la, 30,000km... mai la plupar dimoun ki met full synth, zot npe maniac, so zot fr change deluil la avan 30,000km...

mai pa veu dire ki bn mineral oil pas bon... o contrair, si zon servi deluil multigrade "epai" dan zot moter, li bet zot al paye 1 galon deluil full-synth leger...

en chifr: si zot fini met 20W-## dan zot moter, li bet al paye 1 deluil 10W-##... foder ki massin la in servi 1 deluil leger depi in sort lagence mem...

pou nou clima, 15W## bon... ## la 40 normal, 50 better.. moi mo p go for a 15W-50 next time...

morisboeuf
10-25-2007, 05:06 PM
Ene bon conseil stick to manufacturer specs. Na pas croire qui synthetic oil meillieur qui semi synthetic li depan lor macin. Ene fois mo fin change dipi semi to full synthetic mo consommation fin augmenter ek la marche ti aussi affecter. DIPI MO FINNE FAIR ENGINE FLUSH EK CHANGE TO SEMI BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN. Mo trouver pou mo civic elf excellium top. Mo xsara content semi synthetic, servicing tou les 20000 kms mais mo toujours change oil lok 10000kms, Mo sir mo moter pou last longer.:D:D

STiNG
10-25-2007, 06:21 PM
Ene fois pa ti ena semi synt donc mo ti prend AGIP 5W40, le temps mo fine kone ki pou mo moteur ek climat Maurice ti bizin prend semi synt mone roule trankil ziska environ 3000 km environ, apres mo fine reci gagn semi synt mo faire ene vidange. Par contre mo macine pa ti boire de l'huile meme avec full synt.

@Morisboeuf : quand to dire ki to la marche ti affecter kan to ti passe de full a semi, ki to le dire par la? To macine ti marche moins bien?

BuggyMan
10-25-2007, 08:29 PM
STING, you are misunderstand oil type (synthetic, semi, mineral) and viscosity. a full synthetic oil doesn't have to be 5W40.
Shell helix Ultra sold in mauritius is a 15w50 Full synthetic oil. Shell has optimized this oil for tropical weather, in Europe this same oil is 10w45. I would recomend this oil for turboed engine in good shape.
if your engine as high mileage I would recomend semi-synthetic oil instead.
I would not recomend to use 5w40 oil in mauritius as those oil are meant to be use in cold weather area
cheers.

STiNG
10-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Hi Buggyman, thanks for the advice...houps I thought that 0W30 and 5W40 were only full synthetic...my mileage is about 86000 km so 10W40 semi synt is good for my ride? Or should I use 15W50 (easier to find)

What's the difference between Helix Ultra and Plus : both in 15W50?

BuggyMan
10-25-2007, 08:52 PM
I would check what factory recomends, and tend to use the same or add +5 as we are in hot country.
helix ultra is full synthetic
helix plus is semi synthetic

I would rather use 15w50 than 10w40 for weather reason. but once again it also depends on engine type. check factory recomendation ;)

GiDEZeL
10-26-2007, 12:54 AM
STING, you are misunderstand oil type (synthetic, semi, mineral) and viscosity. a full synthetic oil doesn't have to be 5W40.
Shell helix Ultra sold in mauritius is a 15w50 Full synthetic oil. Shell has optimized this oil for tropical weather, in Europe this same oil is 10w45. I would recomend this oil for turboed engine in good shape.
if your engine as high mileage I would recomend semi-synthetic oil instead.
I would not recomend to use 5w40 oil in mauritius as those oil are meant to be use in cold weather area
cheers.

yup.. c ski mo ti p dire... pou nu clima, `5W-##... the second numbers c zot ki decider.. pli li for, mo penser pli li bon.. mai pou 2m, li differen.. li pa forcermen meilleur meileur kan li bas... bn chifr devan W, li depann clima..

for oil types osi.. samem mo ti dir, dilo bouloir, dilo vital, dilo bouloir...

just go for 15W-50.. should be ok...

skulls
10-26-2007, 05:35 AM
Ok i think i had enough information here, i will go for 15W50. Eski castrol ena li en 15W50 ?

GiDEZeL
10-26-2007, 05:54 AM
Ok i think i had enough information here, i will go for 15W50. Eski castrol ena li en 15W50 ?

i think bzn ena.. mai pa al chek lor net.. produi maurice ek ski lor net pa pareil ditou... al sur place.. dan filling, magasin etc.. then to update nou kan to gagn info.. ok? c samem purpose sa forum la.. nou gagn bn info zpecial pou maurice ki pas biased lor internet!!:rolleyes:

STiNG
10-26-2007, 06:26 AM
Ok i think i had enough information here, i will go for 15W50. Eski castrol ena li en 15W50 ?

Hi, telephone Rey Lenfernat, c zot ki import Castrol aster, mais à ma connaissance pena li en 15W50 mais en 10W40 GTX Magnatec semi synt, sane la même ki mo p servi now.

STiNG
10-26-2007, 08:31 AM
Here is a link for castrol range of motor oils

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/subsection.do?categoryId=8284047&contentId=6005259

morisboeuf
10-26-2007, 11:12 AM
Ene fois pa ti ena semi synt donc mo ti prend AGIP 5W40, le temps mo fine kone ki pou mo moteur ek climat Maurice ti bizin prend semi synt mone roule trankil ziska environ 3000 km environ, apres mo fine reci gagn semi synt mo faire ene vidange. Par contre mo macine pa ti boire de l'huile meme avec full synt.

@Morisboeuf : quand to dire ki to la marche ti affecter kan to ti passe de full a semi, ki to le dire par la? To macine ti marche moins bien?

Exact mais difficile dir qui li direcrement la cause oil. lajanse ti ajuster mo valve juste apres ek la marche ti improve noticably. full syn Oil consumption not good... fill syn oil not suited for that particular car.:eek:

STiNG
10-26-2007, 12:48 PM
But ur r still using full synt in ur D17;)

GiDEZeL
10-26-2007, 03:21 PM
ajuster valve??? what's the relation between valves and engine oil??? can't get the point...

morisboeuf
10-27-2007, 09:30 AM
ajuster valve??? what's the relation between valves and engine oil??? can't get the point...

Ena en tas relation. Mais si to lir post to pou trouver qui mo faire comment qui mo ti remarquer qui mo la marche ti tomber can mo ti change to full syn. 1 bro finne dimandr si mo croire oil finne affecter mo la marche ek mo reply difficile pou repon as power of engine was back to normal if not better after service, changing oil to semi syn and having a valve adjustment at the same time as simple as that Sir.;) Lir ban post dipi begining to pou compran brother.:D

Oil affects performance of a car in many ways try putting very thick oil in a vtec and you will see that ur power will go down. You also loose power if your valves are not adjusted properly.Get it now. Hence my comment.

STiNG
10-27-2007, 10:29 AM
Mo pou oci faire valve adjustment kan mo pou sanz mo timing belt

GiDEZeL
10-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Ena en tas relation. Mais si to lir post to pou trouver qui mo faire comment qui mo ti remarquer qui mo la marche ti tomber can mo ti change to full syn. 1 bro finne dimandr si mo croire oil finne affecter mo la marche ek mo reply difficile pou repon as power of engine was back to normal if not better after service, changing oil to semi syn and having a valve adjustment at the same time as simple as that Sir.;) Lir ban post dipi begining to pou compran brother.:D

Oil affects performance of a car in many ways try putting very thick oil in a vtec and you will see that ur power will go down. You also loose power if your valves are not adjusted properly.Get it now. Hence my comment.

ah.. ok.. mai ofai mo ti lire to post moi.. (btw, mo lire all post lor sa forum la, si mo pa gagn letem pdan 1 period, asap mo chek tou ski mne rater.. lor sa forum la li pa si dificil ke sa pr le momen...lol)

b kmsi ke mo ti mal compren to post.. anyway... aster li clear...

morisboeuf
10-31-2007, 06:11 PM
ah.. ok.. mai ofai mo ti lire to post moi.. (btw, mo lire all post lor sa forum la, si mo pa gagn letem pdan 1 period, asap mo chek tou ski mne rater.. lor sa forum la li pa si dificil ke sa pr le momen...lol)

b kmsi ke mo ti mal compren to post.. anyway... aster li clear...

No problemo nous la pou clarify ek partage sa qui nous conner r tou bro:D:D

yuritos
03-30-2008, 07:25 AM
honda civic vtec AT owners, est ce ki zot coner ki ena 1 de l'huile boite vitesse special honda?

GiDEZeL
03-30-2008, 05:09 PM
honda civic vtec AT owners, est ce ki zot coner ki ena 1 de l'huile boite vitesse special honda?

wawa.. careful ek sa....

surtou bn ki ena CVT... cost bien plu cher.. mai li EXTRA IMPORTAN...
ofai, c 1 ban raison pr laquel mne prefer pa pren 1 Jazz CVT recond... tro bcou dimoun in servi ATF dan zot CVT ek ti tro risker...

parski si servi movai deluil dan sa bn boit la, boit la bon pou zeter... li comens vibrer et mem si met bon deluil apr la suit, c pas sure ki problem will be solved.. + cout abt Rs12k pou fer 1 gearbox flush dan lagence...

EXTRA IMPORTAN SERVI DELUIL CVT POU CVT & ATF POU AT!!!
li ser, mai prefer pa pren risk..

sirozanana
03-30-2008, 07:08 PM
jean jacques venus sa... non???

yuritos
03-31-2008, 09:31 AM
jean jacques venus sa... non???

labas meme ca, entre Manhin et Beechand.

wi de CVT meme ca. ti in blier cmt li appeler.
non li in monter de l'huile la, pu honda civic li 1300+vat.
pu Jazz mo pas coner.

krisfreak
03-31-2008, 09:45 AM
attn honda owners!! pu engine et gearbox, zot kpav servi whatever brand zot envi mais grade approprier.. fer attention pu power steering et automatic transmission oil. Strictly genuine honda oil or else you'll regret it.. mo p dir zot sa par experice personelle..honda et bmw servi ban plastic speciale pu fer zot ban seals et O-rings pu zot hydraulics(power steering et auto trans). si zot servi de l'huile dextron 2 ou 3 (common), li pu bez zot ban seal et machine pu couler couma dir titanic...

yuritos
03-31-2008, 01:36 PM
attn honda owners!! pu engine et gearbox, zot kpav servi whatever brand zot envi mais grade approprier.. fer attention pu power steering et automatic transmission oil. Strictly genuine honda oil or else you'll regret it.. mo p dir zot sa par experice personelle..honda et bmw servi ban plastic speciale pu fer zot ban seals et O-rings pu zot hydraulics(power steering et auto trans). si zot servi de l'huile dextron 2 ou 3 (common), li pu bez zot ban seal et machine pu couler couma dir titanic...

truver 1 dimoune avc l'experiance ki p cozer la ;) ;) ;)

GiDEZeL
03-31-2008, 05:42 PM
labas meme ca, entre Manhin et Beechand.

wi de CVT meme ca. ti in blier cmt li appeler.
non li in monter de l'huile la, pu honda civic li 1300+vat.
pu Jazz mo pas coner.

i know ki krisfreak in deja dir li clermen, mai pou CVT en particulier, mo ti envi fer resortir ki CVT servi 1 fluid differen ki ski AT servi.. mem si zot gagn 1 ATF Honda, li pa compatible r boite CVT (ki completmen differen r AT)... et mo penC CVTF plu cher ki AT, prix ki mo rapel, c Rs4000(+/-)...

both of u fer servicing kot jean jacques? mo papa ti abitier al laba... ki zot feedback abt garage la? maybe could PM me pou pa go "off-topic"...:)

yuritos
03-31-2008, 06:14 PM
Jean 1 "bon" mecano li pu faire ca ki to dire li faire.
mais li pas pu recommende toi change "sa" ou sa pas tro bon ou ki lor prochain servicing bizin changer, et li pena 1 bon record de ki in faire dns dernier servicing.

apart ca so prix assez bon marcher comparer avc les autres garage.

yuritos
04-14-2008, 04:30 PM
pu ban di pas servi cable d'embrayage (hydrolic ones)
qd est ce ki bizin change so l'huile.?

at same interval huile frein ou power steering ?